What The Youngest Child Really Sees

Ever notice how the youngest child can read a room faster than anyone else? We dive into that last-born radar—why being the baby can feel like a front-row seat to family cracks no one wants to name, and how age gaps turn one address into multiple childhoods. With three youngest voices at the table, we compare tight-sibling clusters to 12-year spreads, swap stories about old-lady babysitters and marathon TV nights, and unpack the odd mix of freedom, invisibility, and attention that comes with the “baby” label.  Chrisy and Kerry dive into this topic of the youngest child inspired by a speech by Jordan Peterson.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Setting The Stage
• 0:23 Why The Youngest Child
• 3:20 Age Gaps And Family Dynamics
• 6:40 Cracks Only The Youngest Notices
• 9:10 Babysitters, Alone Time, And TV
• 12:00 Money, Parents’ Nights Out, And Nostalgia
• 15:10 Being “The Baby” And Identity
• 18:00 Holding The Family Together
• 22:20 Different Siblings, Different Worlds
• 25:00 Personality, Birth Order, And Parenting
• 27:30 Owning The Youngest Experience

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:07

Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast. We may not have seen it all, but we've seen enough. And now, here are your hosts, Chrissy and Carrie.

SPEAKER_03: 0:20

Hello, Junkies. I'm Carrie. And I'm Chrissy. Chrissy found a really good video that's gonna be our topic of conversation today.

SPEAKER_04: 0:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 0:30

It stuck with me. Yes, it's all about the youngest child. Yes. Which all of us here are the youngest child. Yes. So we are going to post this video on our Facebook page, but we'll reference it, things that they talk about. But if you want to see the whole thing of where this inspired from, check us out on our Facebook page, Dysfunction Junkies. I think it shares also to our Instagram page. We could probably post it on YouTube too. But anyways, we're sharing it. It was somebody else's creativity, but it inspired us. It did. And a lot of it struck me. Yes. Correctly. Yes. In the right place.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06

Not all of it, but some of it. Right. So I'm the youngest of three. Mm-hmm. You're the youngest of.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14

I'm the youngest of four. And both you and I have five. That's right. That's right. I was thinking I have four sisters. You do. I gotcha. I got you. Yes. Yeah. But there's also a big age gap. You know, my older sisters are very close together, like, you know, a year, year and a half apart, and then there's like 14 or 12 years or something, and then me. So what about you? You're similar.

SPEAKER_04: 1:36

Similar, very similar. Mine, the oldest siblings are uh they're sisters. They're just three years apart. Yeah. And then there's like 12, almost 12 years and almost 10 years between my age and theirs. Right. And DJ Nick, he's the youngest.

SPEAKER_02: 1:53

Yes. So like you, all I have is sisters. I I am a boy. So right? Because it's just you guys are all girls. Right. It's all girls and one boy. And I'm also the youngest. And but my sister's a little closer. My oldest sister is about 11 years, a little over 11 years older than me, and then they go eight, seven, and four years older than that.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14

So your closest sibling is only four years older than you. Yeah. So a little bit different, but still the same concept. Yes. And I think we all agree being the youngest is the best position in the family.

SPEAKER_04: 2:25

I think so. I do too. Especially, I'm sorry. I like the age difference. Yeah. We had talked about it for a little bit in an earlier episode, as far as getting the same stuff. That didn't hit me. Now you had a different experience. Yes. But it hit me where that wasn't a problem until we were all adults. Right. At the same, you know, finally when I made it to that point. Uh, but being younger, uh, they just couldn't pass that off.

SPEAKER_03: 2:52

But your family figured out a way to do it.

SPEAKER_04: 2:54

Yeah, my family did it anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 2:55

They're like, put it in your hope chest. You know, it doesn't matter that you're six years old. You need this fitted sheet that you can have and a quilt that you can put in their box, you know. You'll want this when you become an adult.

SPEAKER_02: 3:06

I got no hand-me-downs, by the way.

SPEAKER_03: 3:08

Oh, oh yeah. Whoa, that's a perk. That's good. That's good. Yeah. That's true. That's true. But one of this video was really interesting because it was saying about the youngest child is the strongest. And uh one of the lines that really resonated with us, both of us, was in this video, it says, the youngest child sees the cracks in the family that no one wants to acknowledge. And that I know when I heard that part, I was like, Oh, amen.

SPEAKER_04: 3:39

Well, I always said that I was a silent observer. Yes. When you're the youngest. You have said that. And you establish these assholes are crazy. They are they be crazy. Cray cray, total. But you sit there quietly and watch them unfold. Yeah. And it's fun sometimes, but sometimes not.

SPEAKER_03: 3:59

Yes. Just laughing at your facial expressions right now. Yeah, it was a really good video. You know, and and I know every position of the child. Like you've got the older kids have the how they feel, and the middle child and how they feel. I mean, uh, we could do the whole gamut, but we're all the youngest, so we're talking about the youngest. So yes, we are.

SPEAKER_04: 4:19

So this is about the youngest. Yeah. Maybe if you're not the youngest, you can sit back and enjoy our take on being the youngest. And uh the one thing that I do feel there is a huge uh difference for me, and you maybe experience the same thing. I don't know that Nick did so much because his age differences were a little bit better staggered. There wasn't a huge gap. Right. But the experience that my sisters had was, and I think this is true pretty much when most people are planning to have their families, they kind of all have their friends and they're all kind of experiencing the same type of place in life about the same time. Right. So they got married year or two or three, they start having their family. So everybody's sort of having kids together, and then they kind of get together all the time with their kids who are all about the same age. Right. They're sort of at the same point with their jobs, they're starting out with their careers, trying to, you know, get ahead and really focus on that, but also uh the family with the fun and the but when you're born about 13, 12 or 13 years after they've been married and have there's that age difference, they kind of already are established in their careers most of the time. And uh those friendships were was important to them to sort of get together and have a good time with uh your kids together. That disappears. Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 5:50

Now everyone's gone their ways, kind of.

SPEAKER_04: 5:53

Pretty much, and they've probably made more new friendships because of their job changes, their career. And you know, there wasn't I didn't go hang out with my parents' friends who had kids my age. Right. Usually I just got told we're going out with our friends tonight and you can stay home. Yeah. And watch TV, which I did. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 6:18

Yeah, and when you did have to have like a babysitter, it was usually some older, older person. You know what I mean? Where if you were in that first set of kids, it was your other mommy friends. And so if you know they were gonna watch the kids or whatever, watch your siblings or whatever, they were all, you know, your mommy friends that might have watched them. Where then you get to us, and it's like, oh, we're gonna shuffle you off to the elderly lady next door with the Lego set, and you have to sit in that living room and only play with that and don't move and everything, because that's they're not used to having kids, you know. So that was kind of a different thing, too, is like my babysitters were often the old lady next door, you know. I went to the lady next door at the time.

SPEAKER_04: 7:01

She was not the old lady next door. She was a very nice lady. She took care of me. Mostly on New Year's, we've touched on that too. They seemed to feel that leaving me alone was the better choice than leaving me with my older sisters. I cannot tell you when I was ever like legitimately babysat by them.

SPEAKER_03: 7:19

Yeah, my sisters were all married and gone, so they weren't around really to babysit me. So that's whenever the occasion, and it didn't happen often, but if I did need to be have a babysitter, it was like one of their friends, which was an older person or the old lady next door, misses she would watch me.

SPEAKER_04: 7:37

Yeah. No, I they seem to think I was okay on my own. Which I was okay with because you would just sit in front of the TV. They this knew this one seems to be enamored with that box. Just put her in front of it, and we can go for quite a while as long as the TV keeps going.

SPEAKER_03: 7:53

So your parents would have been okay with all the screen time.

SPEAKER_04: 7:56

Oh, there wasn't even a thought. I know that's what I'm saying. Not only were they okay with it, they like would slap me really close to it too, because they didn't want me to have anything in my peripheral vision that would distract me from the television. So generally I was up tight with that box. Yeah. Me and that box were like this, sister.

SPEAKER_03: 8:19

I guess because we grew up, well, where we I grew up on a very uh at the time very desolate road that only had a few houses and it was kind of on the outskirts of town with had two graveyards on the road. I I guess they were worried about just leaving me home alone there. Plus, you know, we had that ghost in the house. So, you know, the ghost wasn't qualified to be something.

SPEAKER_04: 8:38

Was it? Are you sure? I really feel we've talked about this before, too. It should have been holding up its end somewhere. At least it could have done something if it was, you know, the squatter that it was. You seem to not be able to boot it out, so so but well, no, I can see you were sort of, I guess, you know, parents generally told me don't open the door for anybody, which I I didn't think we should open the door for anybody at any time. Chrissy wouldn't let anyone in her inner sanctum. No, it's just like, why are we answering? Because back then that was the time they make a joke. We've seen the one comedian, Sebastian Malcolm, who made a whole thing about how people act now when they hear somebody at the door, it's like, oh, why did somebody invite someone? Did somebody ask someone? What's going on? But even then, when you kind of were curious to see who was at the door and happy to open it, yeah, even then, I was just like, you know, yeah, no, don't open that. They're who knows what they're selling or how long they're gonna take me away from television. So just don't open the door. The one thing they also did tell me though was don't use the oven. Oh. But it's like, well, if you didn't want me to use the oven, you didn't leave me anything to eat. What am I supposed to do? Chout out fudgicals. Fudgles. I was allowed to open the freezer. So hey, fudgicals. You know what I did used to do? I rebelled though. We had an electric oven, but uh, I figured out that I could toast marshmallows on it. Oh. Yeah, if you turn that damn thing up high enough, that burner gets real hot. Crisp shit up real quick. Get me some marshmallows. I was camping, nobody else was there, but I had nice marshmallows. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03: 10:16

You were making s'moors?

SPEAKER_04: 10:18

No, I just did the marshmallows. The s'more thing, because we didn't camp. Yeah, that's right. You aren't, yeah. So I only the s'more thing was a new thing for me. We just had marshmallows. Nobody ever bought the graham crackers of the chocolate. That was rude.

SPEAKER_03: 10:33

Or they did eat it, or they did buy it, and you ate the chocolate before you realized it was for a sp something special. Probably.

SPEAKER_04: 10:39

They're like, Oh, we're gonna make s'mores now. What's left? Just the marshmallows. Oh, I'll just do that then. So, what about you? Were you babysat there, Nick?

SPEAKER_02: 10:47

So, not really, because my mom was a stay-at-home mom. And you know, I don't want to sound like, oh, was all such a poor girl, but we didn't have a lot of money growing up, so my parents weren't really going out a lot. Yeah, same. Um, and uh Yeah, actually I don't really recall my sisters babysitting me too much because they didn't have to. Because my mom was home. Or my dad was home. I mean, because that was a time too, because uh you know, one of the things you talked about how, you know, when you came along, your parents were pretty settled into their jobs. My dad actually lost a job. He worked in he was one of those people that lost their job at a steel mill in Youngstown in the late 70s. So we didn't have a lot growing up, and you know, he you know, he had some jobs, but nothing nothing that was as significant as that. So yeah. So no, it's a little bit different, even though they were closer in age. Why siblings, but my mom was pretty much a stay-at-home mom until I went to probably junior high. Uh and then she went back into the workforce.

SPEAKER_04: 11:40

So Okay. Yeah. My parents went out a lot. My father belonged he was a Freemason, so he had his lodge that he liked to go to. My mother, they would go to events together a lot. One thing I do still miss is they used to go out, especially like they'd go to weddings, and uh they would bring me back like the cookies because the Anstown cookie table was a big deal. Big deal. So they usually would bring me back a ton of cookies or maybe a piece of cake. And the one thing I did develop a taste for, and I really do some some really sick part of me misses, uh, they would always come back, the food would come back sort of tasting like an old cigarette. I miss the old cigarette cookie because the frosting just absorb absorbed that like totally burnt. And they and they came and my parents did not smoke, but they came home smell smelling like smoke. Right. Because everybody else did. We're talking late 70s, early 80s. Yep. And uh, so yeah, the the scent of your parents out for the evening was they smelled of smoke, even though they didn't, and uh your food that they brought you back. Tasted of an ashtray. Oh, yeah. Hinto ashtray. And I liked it. I was like really into it. I'm very nostalgic for that. It's hard to get that because it takes a lot to get that sort of flavor in the food.

SPEAKER_03: 13:00

That is so funny, but I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes. Uh-huh. Um, my parents didn't go out much either, but usually when I do remember, for whatever reason, when they would because my one sister that is the closest in age, she was like in high school when I was in middle school. And um, when they would do parent teacher night at her school at the high school, I do remember that was always a night that I did not go, they didn't tag me along that for that night. So that was always a babysitter night. So yeah, weird how we remember these little things.

SPEAKER_04: 13:36

So, so yeah, so my sisters had all these stories about people and uh rela relatives. The other thing was by the time I came around, some well people passed away that were part of their childhood, so I don't have a real good recollection. Uh, some people were sick and on their way out, so I don't have any good recollection of those people being healthy or mobile. I had a grandfather who they my sisters had a very my dad's father, yeah, he sounded wonderful. Yeah, but by the time I came around, he had had some strokes. So he was paralyzed on one side of his body, he was a bad diabetic. So I didn't get that experience of having the great fun with him. And the other thing I heard a lot was uh well, they would refer to some people as like oh, aunt or uncle so-and-so. Oh yeah. I didn't know them as that. And I always kind of got mad. I'm like, they're not my aunt or uncle. You know, they they like uh they chose divorce, so they're out. Yeah, you know, I don't care. Oh, you know, and I'd be like, no, not for me. But the other thing I used to get, which is kind of offensive, but I was like, I don't I don't give a shit, whatever. They people would come up to me and my mom would be like, Oh, yeah, I I have Chrissy here with me. And they'd be like, She's the you know, oh my baby, yeah, this is my baby. It'd be called the baby a lot, especially by my father. Yeah. And they'd be like, Oh, I remember your other two sisters. I don't remember you. What? And I'd be like, Well, who the hell are you? I don't remember you either. But they would say that because they were they remembered the other two probably because they were part of that, the first generation crew where they were all hanging out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 15:18

So did you ever get anything like that? I didn't necessarily get where people didn't remember me, but they associated me. Oh, you're part of the, you know, the family, you know, with all the sisters. Like they would know my other sisters, and so they would name, you know, whichever one that they went to school with or was in cheerleading with or high school with or whatever, and they'd be like, Oh, you're you're part of them. And I'm like, wait, but they're part of me. Right. You know what I mean? What's that? Yeah, exactly. So one of the other things in the video that it said was about how the youngest feel deeply and feel like it's their job to hold it all together, like hold the family together. And that resonated with me because there being such an age difference, I remember growing up where I was always like, you know, because my sisters were out of the house mostly by the time, you know, I was old enough to more be an adult or me, you know, on a more of an adult level, they were already gone. They were already married, they were already having kids. So I remember my whole life, I was always like, I couldn't wait to have sisters because I felt like even though I had sisters, I didn't have sisters because they were married and gone. And so I was like, oh, well, when I get to be an adult, well, I'll be the same age, I'll get to have this family of sisters. And it just like, you know, life life didn't put it out that way, you know, because there was too much age difference, and then geographically we were in different spaces, and then they never really got to know me, but they all knew each other because they were only two years apart. So I always kind of felt like, you know, I always said I grew up an only child in a big family because that's how that's how I felt. Oh, I felt like an only child too.

SPEAKER_04: 16:57

Yeah. Now I was gonna ask, n do I bet you you probably DJ Nick never heard anybody say I don't remember you. Probably because one, you were the only boy. Right. But also, I just don't think that your family probably I N Nick's family strikes me as a type that everybody is very important. Yeah. And on an equal level.

SPEAKER_02: 17:21

Oh yeah. No, no, no. I would say that. Yeah. I mean, see, here's the thing. There there was a definite, I don't call it a line of demarcation where things really changed. But my my parents died. They you know, uh again, another sob story. Sorry for me again. And I think we've talked about this. You know, I've lost my parents three months apart. I was not I was technically an adult. I I was 19, almost 20. And I think I think things changed after my oldest sister, Tom, was only 30 when we lost, you know, both of our parents. So I think that it it definitely changed. And so to Carrie's point about that need to keep the family together. I think there was that strong sense of that, and I think it was a you know, it was a dying wish of my mom, because my dad died before my mom, and then um you know, she always wanted us to stay together. And we you know, we haven't always been successful. You know, there were times where we were not getting along, and and and that happens. And so I think you know, today we're all on on pretty good terms, but you probably had more of a weight on your shoulder too, being the only boy. Well, but to kinda I was actually gonna say uh quite the opposite from I didn't feel like you felt that that having to keep the family together. I think because my sisters were already kind of doing that, that I didn't need to take that on. Now and geographically, I'm I'm not near the other my sisters are all closer together. So there's a little bit of a uh a disconnect, I I think, and there always kind of has been. And I don't want to go like some psycho babble, you know, down that rabbit hole. But I think because I'm the boy, I'm I'm I'm different. Yeah. I'm just different. And I and I don't I didn't I I mean I I love, you know, I love my sisters, but I don't I don't think I had to feel that sense of closeness that I think my mom would really want. I just you know but it's just and I think some of that it is is geographical, but even when we still lived in that in in the Youngstown area, yeah. I you know, we we still got together for like, you know, even as they were adults, they would still do birthday parties and I was kind of like over that. But yeah, but it was really about it for them. It was about getting together. It wasn't really about the birthday party.

SPEAKER_03: 19:25

Right, right, right. But but I wonder though if you would have had a brother if you would have maybe felt that uh like how I was like, oh, I can't wait to have my sisters, you know, like if there was a brother, like you know, where you would have a different feeling. It's just uh maybe.

SPEAKER_02: 19:42

I mean, but I do think that you know there is a a difference. Yeah. Right. I'm I'm a guy.

SPEAKER_03: 19:48

Yeah, I do. I think there is a difference there.

SPEAKER_02: 19:50

I didn't, you know, I whereas I think that there's there's a little bit more of a not to say I'm like some outcast or absolutely.

SPEAKER_03: 19:56

No, no, it's just a difference.

SPEAKER_02: 19:57

I think there's a more of a bond because they're sisters. Yes. I'm I'm not, you know, I'm I'm the brother. Right. And I'm also the youngest. And you were the baby. Yeah. So they had the thing. And if you would ask them, and if they were on the show today, they would say, Oh, he was, you know, the baby boy, he was spoiled rotten. Right. To which my my instant retort is always, you know, there's a fine line between spoil and torture. So whatever this could be true. So I think there's definitely some different dynamics. Yeah. But I didn't have that need like you did, to keep it together, like that author talks about. And I think it's because my you know, my older sisters were they were doing it. They were doing it. Yeah. And then probably at it out of some type of necessity because my parents were gone.

SPEAKER_03: 20:39

Exactly. That was the different dynamic there. See, my family, they were all everything was still stable, so everyone was just moving on with their lives. But I was like, felt like I wasn't added into that, you know, because there was such an age difference.

SPEAKER_04: 20:52

So I don't know what any of you are talking about right now. Because Chrissy was all about Chrissy. I was. I didn't feel the need to hold anything together. They were out of the house pretty much by the time I was nine. Uh-huh. So there wasn't, and I didn't, because there was an age difference, I didn't have to share any of my stuff. Right. Nor would I have wanted to. And I don't want to say my parents were selfish. I don't want to say use that word. Right. But they were determined to have their time. Right. To do what they wanted. Especially my father. Right. But my mother too. And I wasn't demanding of that because I didn't I liked attention, but and I wanted them to give me, but not so much the attention, the things. Yes. I want stuff. Right. So yeah, again, I will say, I will sit here, I will be quiet, I will watch TV, but make sure I have a good TV. Make sure we have cable. Make sure I have a PCR. Because I sometimes I want to watch a video or record something.

SPEAKER_03: 21:55

In a membership to Blockbuster or whatever.

SPEAKER_04: 21:57

Whatever place back time. And so yeah, I just sort of didn't feel that need. I do appreciate, even as I became an adult, the time that I had with my parents, it didn't involve my older sisters. We used to go over on Sunday mornings when we uh even before we had kids. Yeah. Because we waited a while to have kids. And we would have Sunday morning with my mom and dad. My sisters were not there. I they weren't real uh mobile in the morning, I don't think. Like but they had They had their own lives. Well, they had their own lives, and my one sister did already have children. Yeah. But we didn't have kids yet. And we and so I was really I always hold that and I'm so grateful that I had that. Yeah. Because I kind of like I hate to say this, and I don't mean anything. Well, maybe I do. I really liked sort of blocking out and just because again, I'm a selfish person, so therefore they were mine. Yes. And they were only mine. And you didn't have to share them. No. And I, you know, for the most part, yeah. My father helped with that. And I am wrong, I'm sure, but maybe not. No. I kind of always felt like his favorite. And my mom always tried to make sure that she loved everybody. Well, and I'm sure she does. You know, yeah. I just sort of appreciated having time with my dad. And there were times where he was real sweet and he always referred to me as his baby.

SPEAKER_03: 23:24

And those are the good memories to hang on to and to cherish. Yeah. That's what gets you through some of the rough times. Right.

SPEAKER_04: 23:30

Yes. There was also, and we can post this too if I can find the video again, that I found it kind of went along with this. Nick's gonna help me with the doctor's name, but I found what he was talking with a lady about the sibling thing and uh sibling experiences. Nick, say this uh French guy's name.

SPEAKER_02: 23:46

Dr. Gabor Mate.

SPEAKER_04: 23:48

It had one of those squiggly lines over the one vowel, uh-huh. The E at the end. Uh-huh. And then Nick brought it up, which I found ridiculous. Did not take French.

SPEAKER_02: 23:57

Well, you'd have to take French to know it.

SPEAKER_04: 23:59

I don't think we did that. I had Italian. We didn't the the squiggle line went one way. In Italian. Am I wrong? Italian people or people who speak Italian, or maybe we can get some listeners over in Italy. Help me out here. We the squiggle went one way. In French, you said that it depends on which flipping way it goes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 24:18

Go ahead. Give them your fancy goddamn words you use. If it goes up.

SPEAKER_02: 24:23

I don't know. If it goes up to the right, it's called an accent agu. And if it goes to the left, it's accent grove.

SPEAKER_04: 24:29

It's French. I grovel for eggs. That's all I heard.

SPEAKER_02: 24:33

So the agu over top of the E makes it sound like a long A sound, like say.

SPEAKER_03: 24:40

And that's our French lesson for today.

SPEAKER_04: 24:42

That was a French lesson. But what the doctor said with the squiggly little baboo or whatever was that siblings in the same house, even at the same time, do not have the same experience. Amen. Yes. And they he gets into more detail about that. But I really that so even though I was like, well, of course we didn't have the same experience because we really weren't growing up in the same time period. Right. We weren't uh going through sort of a similar age at the same time. So I, of course, didn't have the same experience, nor did they with me. Right. But he was stressing that even siblings who are close in age and in that household with those parents at the same time, their experience is also not the same.

SPEAKER_03: 25:27

Amen, 100% agree with that.

SPEAKER_04: 25:30

Yes, I thought that was interesting. Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 25:33

Because I think also part of that is when we're all human and so we all have our own personalities. So, you know, even when you start going into, you know, we've talked about like, okay, the babies and how we are, you know, you have that first child, second child, and and we we've joked about this even with my grandchildren because my granddaughter's second, well, she's really third, but there's, you know, again, a space and difference. But but she's growing up one and two with my grandson and and her. And so she's got that typical second child syndrome that's very like outgoing. She's like not fearful, she's just, you know, all uh all out there, you know. And so when you've got a different personality like that, it causes differences in how your parents react and how you treat. So how you treat the child that's calm or quiet compared to how you treat the child that's climbing up the walls and doing things, yes, it's gonna be different, different parents, different parenting styles, different uh responses. So and then you add in age difference, time difference, job differences, and all the other things. So that's why we're all dysfunctional. Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 26:42

So there, meh, meh. So your experience was not my experience, but you're older than me. So ha ha ha ha ha ha.

SPEAKER_03: 26:52

But my experience is more important, right? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04: 26:56

According to Chrissy, yeah, and I wasn't gonna hold it all together. That that line I totally disagree with. We saw the cracks, yeah, major cracks, like I said. Yes, but I didn't feel the need to hold anything together, not at all.

SPEAKER_03: 27:12

See, I did, I definitely felt that way, but oh my, well, this was fun. We'll have to find more of these things and maybe dive down you know, the older child, middle child, and just compare it.

SPEAKER_04: 27:24

I'm not doing the older and the middle child thing. I'm because I'm not. And I now carry might be interested in your uh experience.

SPEAKER_03: 27:31

I'm not, and this is where are you a Chrissy or Carrie?

SPEAKER_04: 27:37

Yes, good or bad, evil or a saint. I'm not a saint. Neither am I.

SPEAKER_03: 27:45

If you're not, I sure as hell I'm not. Well, be sure to check out our Facebook page. We're gonna post these videos that we've been talking about today. They're just kind of interesting, good food for thought. We're also, if you want to check out our website, dysfunction junkiespodcast.com, you will learn all about our junkies care initiative for the month of November. We are supporting Sleep in Heavenly Peace, a national organization with chapters all across the country whose goal is to provide every child a bet. We're really excited about sharing their mission and sharing their information. So please check that out. And other than that, we'll see you next week. Bye, everybody. Bye bye.