Dysfunction Junkies
Two high school besties reconnect and commiserate their stories as they navigate the dysfunctions of life from marriage, families, illness, death of childhood families, and creating healthy boundaries. Join them each week as Chrisy and Kerry share their stories and life lessons all with a zest of wit, humor, and love. They may not have seen it all, but they have seen enough!
Dysfunction Junkies
Letting Go Of Mental Clutter For A Calmer Year
Ever feel trapped by a noisy mind? We unpack mental clutter, sleep struggles, and why letting go creates real freedom. Hear candid stories, practical tips, and a book rec that sparked change. If you’re ready to trade constant rumination for calm focus, this conversation brings empathy, humor, and tools you can use tonight. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who needs a quieter brain, and leave a review with your own tip for silencing the 3 a.m. thought spiral.
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Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast, where we may not have seen it all, but we've seen enough. And now, here are your hosts, Chrissy and Kerry.
SPEAKER_02:Hello, junkies. I'm Kerry. And I'm Chrissy. All right, Chrissy. We're a weekend to the new year.
SPEAKER_03:Yay.
SPEAKER_02:Got a new you going on over there?
CHRISY:I have many personalities, so every day's a new, a new something new, depending on who I am that day. I understand that.
SPEAKER_02:I bet you you've known me long enough to know that you totally get it. Uh-huh. I do. I do. So, you know, over the past oh year or so, you know, when we've talked on different episodes, we've talked about, you know, decluttering, the physical decluttering of our lives. Especially mine, yes.
CHRISY:Well, because I'm a little I've been a little bit late to the game on it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I mean I've had my own share of clutter that I've been getting rid of as we're preparing for this move across country. So I'm you're not the only one. So but today Chrissy found a really good topic. And uh we're gonna be talking about getting rid of a different kind of clutter. Chrissy, go. Thank you.
CHRISY:It's mental clutter, which I didn't realize. I I had this idea of talking about uh something that I think comes with age, more uh self-understanding, uh realizing uh your limitations and what you're really meant to focus on in life. When you're younger, maybe not everybody, but I think a lot of us as we're younger, we really feel like we we can and are supposed to control everything. Yeah. And unfortunately, I think it does most of us a lot of injustice. Yes. Because it basically distracts us from a lot of things that we should be staying focused on.
SPEAKER_02:And it sets us up to fail a lot of times.
CHRISY:Yeah, because we can't control it all. No, and as soon as you come to the understanding of that, which generally comes later, at least I speaking from myself, it it took me uh 50 years, yeah, probably to really come to peace with the idea that I am not gonna control everything. And the other thing is, why would I want to? Why do we feel you know, it's just uh there's a lot of freedom and understanding that that's just not what you're meant to do. This is very true. So I was thinking to myself, and I said, the just there's an art form to letting go. Yes. Now, here's where I try to do a little bit of research. Okay. Again, I I if you haven't already figured it out, I I can half-ass my way through a lot of stuff. But I'm trying to get better because you have to be careful because sometimes you wonder, did I come to that on my own, or is it something I may have heard? Right. Or maybe it's just a coincidence that you did come to it on your own, but somebody else also did. Yes. So when I was looking uh up some of this, I realized that there is a self-help book out there with that exact title. Oh. The Art of Letting Go. Very good. And the uh book is by Nick Trenton, okay, and it's from 2023. Oh, recent. It's fairly recent. I would like to say I highly recommend it, which I guess I do, because obviously I'm on the same page as as Mr. Trenton. But as far as being able to speak of the fact that I've gone through it, at this point I have not. But this might be something I as part of a new year, new me. Okay. I need to get back into understanding that uh I can't uh completely uh drain my brain in front of the box, or now the flat screen, it's no longer a box. That maybe I should get um exercise my brainwaves a little bit and read more like I used to. There you go. So we can have a dysfunction junkies book club. That would be fun. Because I I did do the um You should get letters by lantern light, though yes, that's another thing we we come across that's wonderful. Yes, ease into that.
SPEAKER_02:Ease into reading with letters by lantern light. Yes, that is a good start.
CHRISY:And see, it's already impacted me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, look where I'm going. Look where you're going. Look at that. Good job, Chrissy. Yeah, well, because on our in my blog on our website, I did a book review on the oh now I can't. Oh nobody wants your shit. Yeah. By Messi Kondo. That's yes. So now Chrissy can do a book review on, but from Nick Trenton's book, The Art of Letting Go. Yes.
CHRISY:And that might be my first one. That might be your first one. I think that's we've been on action. There you go. I know.
SPEAKER_02:I wonder if this isn't an audiobook.
CHRISY:That might be a good way to segue me into certain things too. So keep talking about it and I'll see if it comes in audiobook. My first intention before I saw uh Mr. Trenton's self-help uh book out there was just the self-liberation and discovering that you can't control everything, which we've already touched on. And why would you want to control everything? And uh I there's a level of gratification and finally understanding that you're not gonna control how people are, you know, how they treat you, how you approach things. It's just, you know, and it's not worth spending the time to to think about uh yourself, your flaws, others, and their flaws. So that's sort of where I came to understand and feel good about myself. And I think uh for the new year for a lot of us, uh I think this is uh valuable to sort of I think it would help us get on track to have a very comfortable, relaxing, less filled anxiety year. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And I think this is really good because which by the way it does come in an audiobook.
SPEAKER_00:Wonderful. It's actually you because of our Amazon subscription, it's unlimited, so we don't have to pay if you want to listen.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you can get it on Amazon Prime through your music, yep. Yes. Okay, so if you have that, if you have Amazon Prime.
SPEAKER_00:But you're not reading, you're just listening.
SPEAKER_02:But that's okay, it still counts. It's still giving uh you're getting literature in your brain. Yes. That's what we need to try and do literature and self-help and everything into my brain. But no, this is really good because you know, with everything I've been through in the last couple years, and especially this last year after my mom passed away, I really have been trying to let go and let God, you know, just kind of move on about things and not feel guilty about moving on and letting go. Because that's the part I'm having a little bit of trouble with at times, is I've I'm feeling guilty about having to let some things go, even though I know it's the right thing, you know. When people are hurting you in your life or gaslighting you or causing problems and you have to walk away, I there's still a little part of me that sometimes feels like, well, I sh, you know, I should be the bigger person. Oh boy, I know. Oh boy, be the better person, right? But so this is really a good thing. And I had a laugh because you know how I love my memes.
CHRISY:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So kind of along this line was I found this one meme, and it says uh it was like one for New Year's Eve and stuff, and it was like, this year I'm making donations in honor of family members or friends, people's names to my therapist. I'm making a donation to my therapist in honor of that person's name. Lovely.
CHRISY:So I can like I like that one.
SPEAKER_02:That's good.
CHRISY:So whatever will work, and I that I think a lot of people would feel that. Yes, but uh well, yeah, no, and uh going along with Mr. Trenton's uh summary here, and I did not mean for this to turn into uh basically a promotion or something, but I think when you find something good, yeah. I think this is good that uh you know the mental clutter, uh your past regret, just things that you were just talking about. Past regrets, negative thought patterns. I have that all the time. They should study my negative thought patterns like they do the weather, you know, weather patterns and Chris Chrissy's negative thought patterns. Maybe we can that could be a whole college books. That could be. Maybe they can tell what the weather will do by studying my negative thought patterns. There might be a connection uh through practical, psychologically backed techniques, sort of trying to pull out some of the information that really touched uh on things I was thinking, designed for those who feel constantly on edge, offering a guide to mental reorganization and emotional freedom. Wow. I mean, I can't believe I found something that basically I I mean it goes along with everything I was basically trying to talk about. Right. So right up your outlet. This is awesome. I think out of the fact that we all struggle with physical clutter and it's hard to let go. And it and but what is the the holding on to things do? I mean, I know everybody gets on me and says you have to do this, and I would get mad for the longest time when people would say, You'll feel better if you just get rid of it. Right. What is and then it's right, what joy is it bringing you? Is it do you really feel great? Do you use the stuff? Do you go every day and look at it and say, Oh yeah, I remember, blah, blah, blah. And the answers to all of these things is no, it does not make me feel better. No, I do not go and look at this stuff. No, it does not make me remember good times. Yeah. So then why are you keeping it? Because it's mine. There's that sense of where you feel like you need to control. If I can hold on to all of my crap, uh-huh. I am in some way, in my mind, and probably a lot of people's minds who are struggling with this, controlling something. You're controlling your environment to some level. This is very true. You're not letting somebody else have what you have or had.
SPEAKER_02:This is true. I think one of the things that I was reading on here that really hit me was it's a way to make your mind a safe zone instead of a noisy place. And that is what gets me. My brain is noisy. It is and it's distracting. It's very distracting, it's very it causes a lot of anxiety and it it disrupts a lot of things, especially my sleep, because my brain is just going and I need to be able to let it go. Let it go.
CHRISY:Yeah, I I need to practice something with this. I'm glad you brought that up where your the sleep is disrupted. I unfortunately, because I am older and I do have to get up in the middle of the night because I have to visit the the powder room, and then I have to try and really work at going back to sleep. Yeah. I feel like there's like an expiration period where if I can get to use my restroom quickly and get back into bed within a certain amount of time, I can generally get myself back to sleep.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
CHRISY:But if I get distracted, or then I feel like I need to check on the kids, or I heard something and I needed to see, or I then I start thinking, okay, wait, did I lock that? Uh-huh. And then I feel like I have to go. So now I'm sort of made myself more up than I need to be. Yes. And then the whole thinking thing happens. Like you said, you have a lot of noise, a lot of brains. And you're thinking, and then I will sit there and I'll say, okay, now I'm talking again with multiple people I have going on here, where I'm negotiating with myself. Okay. You're negotiating. I'm negotiating with myself. I am having an argument with myself in the middle of the night. He's sleeping over here. He's fine. Thank God. Good for him. I and now I'm saying, okay, Chrissy, we're not, we're not gonna go to the bad place. Uh-huh. Oh, yes, we are. Yeah, we are. So I start thinking, I'm horrible. Death, mayhem, famine, war. Yeah. Everything. Yep. My brain's gone there. Yeah. So then what do I have to do? Okay, now I really can't sleep because I've just totally depressed myself and given myself a lot of things to be anxious about. So you're now gonna watch fart videos on TikTok? I might. How do I know? I might pull up the fart videos, or I'll play I have a game on my phone to sort of re-channel my brain. So I think, but what I'm doing is I'm stimulating myself more, making it even harder to go to sleep. Right. Or I turn on the TV and I'm watching Ret and Link. I'm sorry. There they go again. These guys, I swear. Or something on YouTube. Now they do have on YouTube. I sometimes have put these on, and I and a lot of people I'm sure already know about them. But I came across them a few years ago and they're wonderful. They have these things called ambiance things where you can turn on whatever you want. Christmas, right? They had fire. Halloween ones, all Halloween. Uh so they'll do holidays, they'll do scenery, they'll do stream, uh city stuff, things that you like white noise, yeah, basically, that might help you relax and go to sleep. And then usually there's pretty scenery along with it. Yeah. And I really like those uh videos. They're genius, in my opinion, and they're fun to sort of find these lovely places I wish I was, but I'm not. So that maybe helps get me back to sleep. But sometimes if I'm really just going down the bad place, I can easily be up. And three o'clock seems to be the witching hour. The witching hour, yes it is. Where I get up and uh I can it's almost like I'm trying physically to exhaust myself. Yes. With thinking, with playing maybe that game, maybe watching ridiculous fart videos. And I get so tired that I feel like, okay, now finally, without too much effort, I could probably fall back asleep. Yeah. But then within the hour I have to be up again. Right. To get kids ready for school and do all this other stuff. So I am sleep deprived. Like, but I'm not the only one. Yeah. And as much as I feel like he is probably sleeping soundly next to me, I'm sure my activity or thought videos to some level have bled over onto his side of the bed. And so his sleep has probably been disrupted to some extent. Although I hear snoring, so I don't think it is, but I'm not a sleep expert.
SPEAKER_02:We used to have a TV in the bedroom, and when we moved from Nevada to Ohio, uh, I had said no TV in the bedroom. Because Jim will sit up and he'll watch TV, you know, in bed. But it gives me a headache if I'm trying to sleep and I hear it on. Now I like having ambient noise, like a fan in the room, or if I had like soft music or ocean waves, you know, playing that kind of like I can handle that. But hearing people having conversation on the TV and the up and down, all that, no, it gives me a headache. Like even if I'm sleeping, I will wake up with a headache from that. So we made the decision. Well, I made the decision, no TV. So when we're moving back out west, there's been this conversation about and I really don't want a TV in the bedroom because I'm bad enough of being on my phone, but I couldn't imagine, like, oh, if I start watching TV, forget it. And then if there's if it's available for Jim to watch, he's watching it. So yeah, but I I will get on my phone and I'll play, I'll play games, and it's the same thing. It's uh it's a mind-numbing game that just is trying to keep my brain from getting noisy. And there's a lot of times even at night while we're watching TV or doing hanging out, I'll be on my phone playing these games because again, I'm trying to keep my brain from getting noisy, and I don't know how else to control that.
CHRISY:Right. Yeah. So they're fighting for this discipline to be able to do this.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. So I'm I'm actually looking forward to reading this book.
CHRISY:Yeah, I think it's uh it it it was a good find, I think. You brought up not having TV in the bedroom, uh-huh. And you know me, so this is not gonna come as any surprise. I have literally, if something has happened where like all of a sudden we were offline and the TV went out, or if I've actually worn out televisions where they just stop working.
SPEAKER_02:Doesn't Nick's looking at me like, Are you surprised?
CHRISY:Um I will get uh should I use the word hysterical or downright unruly if we don't have some way for me to be able to have a television in the room. We had to buy a new TV because it went our other one with Kaputsky, and I had to like snag one of my kids' iPads. Oh which you're not supposed to be. We don't let them. Yeah. And sometimes they wish. I was gonna ask you, do they have TVs in their room? No.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. No, none of them.
CHRISY:No, my oldest. My oldest had uh one in there, but it wasn't to watch anything, it was for video. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Games, games, but uh she actually doesn't use it like we do.
CHRISY:No, I need to be watching something.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, so we uh I actually have bought I I buy a backup TV to rotate in the event of a shutdown. Oh my god.
CHRISY:It's bad. I am at a bad place, everyone. But I'm working on it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she needs the art of letting go of having a TV in our bedroom, is what she needs to let go of.
CHRISY:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:I am just, you know, you you go back probably from the start of this. I mean, I've heard of people having backup generators or backup foods.
CHRISY:We felt we really goes down. We got a spa instead of a generator. That was our choice because I got a spa. Yeah, we we try to early on, we talked about so many great topics that we talked about how uh as everybody feels, things that maybe our parents exposed us to, yeah, our families that have had a lasting impact on our lives, uh, for better or worse. Yeah, and a lot of worse. Uh, but we do it too. Unfortunately, like we said, it's an endless cycle of how we did your dad have a backup TV? No, my father actually, for as much as he was into television, yeah, until he was older and then he wasn't well, he really didn't have TV in the bedroom. Oh, okay. He was he he respected his sleep time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but how old were you when you got your TV in the bedroom? Because I know you had one in your bedroom. I did. Yeah. Uh where you exposed me to those horrible horror movies.
CHRISY:Come to my bedroom. I know, right. We got a good movie happening in 10 minutes. Uh gosh, I remember being really little and having a television in my room, so probably four or five. But remember back then it you didn't have TV all the time. You didn't. We're talking about in the 70s. So, and what I wanted to watch being that young was, you know, probably PBS, yeah, the Sesame Street and the children's things, Saturday morning cartoons when they were on. And then TV shut off after a certain time, anyhow. Yeah. And I'm sure my uh probably my father, yeah, more than anything, would be as much as he exposed me to television, he also used to be in charge of telling me when you say when, and it's off. Off. Yeah. So he didn't want to hear it at night either, believe it or not. But the fact that I was raised on so much TV maybe has that impact on me that I just need it's so much. It's your security blank. It is my security. It is your security blank. And Nick, he won't, he's done. He doesn't need to watch it. I'm surprised he tur sort of turns the other way. And but sometimes even the flashing, because you have to watch what comes on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It can be some high strobe effect show.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, he knows and it will disturb you. When we when we go to a hotel, you know, Jim is always excited because, oh, there's a TV, you know. And so I usually, I mean, I sometimes I sleep with a sleep mask, but not so much lately because my bedroom is set up in a way that I I don't have that stimulus. But when we travel, I always have a sleep mask. And a lot of that's because I know he's gonna watch TV. You mean like uh to cover my eyes, yeah, an eye mask. Yeah, because that way if he has it on, and then I just tell him you have to turn the sound out. So, but yeah, I I can't this the the flashing and the lighting and all that. Like even if we're you know, where we live right now, we're on a main road, and if salt truck goes by and they got the lights on, oh yeah, that'll wake me up.
CHRISY:Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, even though you don't hear it, but it's It's the flashing of light that that wakes me up from a dead sleep. Oh yeah. What were you gonna do?
SPEAKER_00:No, so I hope that you really once you finally listen or read The Art of Letting Go, that you learn something from that. Because I do think some of the reason she keeps the TV on at night is it's a distraction for her from thinking. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That would be nice if she would.
CHRISY:I'd find a better, more relaxing. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So we could just shut the TV off. The TV's on all night.
CHRISY:Now I have to uh disagree with that because recently I have, and if you've noticed, because you get up in the middle of the night too, so you're my age. We both have the same uh bladders uh issue. And uh that TV, once it does go off, the TV through an inactivity, because I do watch YouTube basically, it will at some point it's gonna say, Hey, do you want to continue watching? And if I'm passed out, I don't hit the button, it goes down.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but you can't but what you're saying is she consciously isn't turning the TV off. The TV will time itself off.
CHRISY:Yeah, and what I do is uh, but then I have the backup, I have the phone, so therefore I don't have to turn the TV back on. Yeah, I now I've got my phone, I can control that right from where I'm at. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um so yes, if I have the midnight visit to the powder room, yes, uh that three of the room. To the Taboy's room. Um uh yeah, sometimes it's been off recently.
CHRISY:Yeah, and I don't put it, I try really hard not to put it back on. The the one thing we used to have a TV that was nice because I had to have something going on. Yes, like you said, you like to have a few. You like to have a something like that. Well, with the TV that offered me that security, but I was disrupted a lot with my sleep because of the lighting, if something came on all of a sudden. Yeah. We had a TV, I don't know how many TVs ago, because as it's you can tell, it's we go through them quite regularly, that had this setting on it that almost dulled the screen. Oh, okay. Like it really faded it out where you could still see stuff, but it almost seemed like something was like dark over top of it that you could see the images and everything, but it wouldn't almost like putting sunglasses on your TV but reverse, like it wouldn't shine at you. Right, right, right. Um, which was actually probably a good idea. I but I guess most people be like, I'm not looking for a TV to see if it has this option because I just really don't want because people are disciplined more than me. Yeah, they're just not gonna watch it.
SPEAKER_02:But uh yeah, yeah. Interesting.
CHRISY:The TV is like a total.
SPEAKER_02:And you know, I will say that this time of year, whenever, you know, most of the time when the fan's on, it's also just to have that air movement. But this time of year when it's so cold out and you know, so I don't have the fan on, I will say that sometimes it is harder for me to sleep because I don't have that ambient noise going on. It it is a little an an extra little battle I then fight because I don't have the fan on and I don't want to put the fan on because then it's too cold. But I need the fan because uh I'm fighting with my brain.
CHRISY:So I'm sure with the apps that we have, yeah, you probably could find a sound effect that is fan without it there being a fan.
SPEAKER_02:Or I probably could just turn the fan the other way, but you know, I don't know.
CHRISY:I can't one thing and we have I uh when we had our uh house before we moved here, I'm trying to think. I don't think we had a ceiling fan anywhere in that house when we still lived in the Austin Town area. I don't remember us having anything. The house we had prior to that, we had fans, but we didn't have central air in that house. It was older. Yeah. Uh in this house, there is uh a ceiling fan in our living room area, and then there's one in our bedroom. Do you turn it on? Never turn on. Really? Never. I do not want air blowing at me. And I know they say you can reverse the blades, yeah, but I can still feel it like going down the sides of the walls. I don't air on me, I feel like my ears are getting plugged and I'm getting like a sinus issue. I don't want any air coming at me.
SPEAKER_02:See, the house we're in now, because it's a 1900s farmhouse and the ceilings are low, there's not a lot of ceiling fans. Um the kitchen and the dining room are the only two places that have a ceiling fan, but the bedroom, there's no room. But the house we're moving to in Utah has ceiling fans, and I'm actually that was one of the things I'm looking forward to. I'm like, oh, I'll have a ceiling fan in the bedroom, so I will have a fan. Right. But you're pretty quiet and you're looking for the sound. I know, but it also will be that air movement. Can you buy those things we used to stick on our wheels?
CHRISY:The tires and then make it but it can sound like the Wheel of Fortune wheel. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I used a we used to use like a deck of cards. That's like a card in your thing.
SPEAKER_02:I never did that. To the point of when we go on vacation, that's one of my butler preferences is I want I will have them put a fan in our room. And even if I don't want the fan on me, I want the noise.
CHRISY:So You've definitely done your traveling right. What is this butler preference? Is that a box you check on the flip and applicate or whatever you're doing, your reservation box?
SPEAKER_02:We always pick a button. You know how to do it. I do, I know you know how to do it. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna feel sorry for it. And if people say I'm pretentious or whatever, I don't care. Hey, that's how I'm traveling. That's how you're traveling. And I'm enjoying it every minute. And those I tip those butlers well because I appreciate everything they do for me. Well, that's great.
CHRISY:And I think that's another part of this whole the act of what did I say the art of letting go, and also the art of the fact that you accept that you're not gonna negotiate what you want and like, and you're not gonna feel bad about it. I'm not gonna feel bad about it.
SPEAKER_02:I feel bad about enough other things that I shouldn't feel bad about, but I'm not feeling bad about that.
CHRISY:No, you shouldn't. And as from what I can tell with Mr. Trenton's book and how I was thinking my thought was, is that you shouldn't feel bad about anything.
SPEAKER_02:No.
CHRISY:Oh, which generally I you don't. That's probably one area at all.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm gonna segue before we leave a little something that we talked about on one of our episodes when we were talking about letting things go physically. Uh uh. We talked about things that we had a hard time getting rid of. And one of them was the death book.
CHRISY:Oh my god, no, what do you have?
SPEAKER_02:And I said that I was going to get, I said one of the things you could do to get rid of the death book was that you can scan it online so you have a digital version. And we talked about the QR codes for the graves for the tombstones.
CHRISY:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:I got my QR codes. Chrissy's look on her face. I can't. I can't.
CHRISY:We gotta pick this right now. What? Wait a minute. Are you doing some sort of pre-planning thing? No, this is gonna be for my mom. Oh, okay. So this I thought this was for you. I'm like, Jesus. No, now everything we talked about. I could now you've totally ruined this. I can't let go of anything. Now you're talking about planning for your own funeral. Oh my god. I get up in the morning to go pee, but I don't feel like I'm dead yet.
SPEAKER_02:This that's a good idea. I could start one of this and all my shit that I I could put on there so that way it's I can throw it out and I have it safe. But, anyways, I went and bought the QR code. And this this particular company, not a sponsor, is uh called Turning Hearts, and you purchase the little metal QR code and you create she's holding something and she's snapping it with her fingers.
CHRISY:It has a heart on it. It looks very pretty, like almost like it's a piece of jewelry, except it's on a box.
SPEAKER_02:And it has a QR code on it. That looks like flowers. Well, it's disguised because there's a heart around it. It's a QR code, so I guess from far away it does look like little flowers, the pixels. But I'm practicing. So, anyways, you put this on the headstone or whatever. How is that gonna seal on the headstone? There's another little there's another little thing in here that it it adheses to. See this? Made specifically for stone 3M. So there you go.
CHRISY:It's like it's an adhesive, it's an adhesive, and it can m handle all weather types and stay on the stone. Yes, and this doesn't end up on somebody else's stone by accident blows over and you're like, wait a minute, I'm completely confused. What happened here?
SPEAKER_02:So you create your little account and you can add in all your memories of your loved one and pictures or videos or obituaries, whatever you want to add. So that way when someone goes to their to visit the the grave of that person, they can scan that and they can learn more about them or see reminisce or whatever. So that way you can get rid of a lot of things because you've digitized it, you've let go of the physical, but you've kept it digitally. We talked about that one of our episodes, and it came in the mail. So I was so excited to bring it for you so you can see.
CHRISY:Somebody's trying to say something with their QR code. I am fascinating. No, I'm not fascinated. I am I guess I feel good that you brought this up for people because I understand that this is where we are now with our technology and our world, uh, QR code. But yet anything that deals with like I get startled. Like gravestone, yeah, coffin casket, uh flowers in a shitty vase, this kind of stuff just all freaks me out.
SPEAKER_02:Takes me to a really doesn't it make you want to go through a great uh cemetery and see if there's look for QR? It's like uh what is that called whenever the people they hide the scavenger? Geocaching? It's like a s you don't you're looking at me straight.
CHRISY:I've never heard what is I'm afraid what this means.
SPEAKER_02:Geocaching is kind of like a modern day scavenger hunt and you are looking through for things that are they're all in a cemetery? No, they're anywhere, they're everywhere, they're everywhere.
CHRISY:You mean these are electronic like the Pokemon thing where there's like one sitting on your shoulder and I have to catch it? No, no, no, these are real physical things.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. Anyways, but yeah, you could go through those different cemeteries now looking to see.
CHRISY:This is bringing up something I'm guessing for a future episode. And as everybody knows who's listened long enough knows that I will go to very dark places, especially when it's in regards to death. Uh this is something that some families do, and uh, by today's standards, generally is considered taboo. At some period of time, such as the Victorian period when we were early in our photography exploration, yeah, that they did a lot, is the photo ops at funerals. And there are some families who do this, yeah, it's part of their belief system. Now, would you include that on the QR code? So somebody maybe missed out on the funeral calling hours. Well, this is bad. This is bad, right? I always have to ask for this funeral stuff and dead people say.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, but a lot of people live stream funerals now. So if somebody missed a funeral, you could potentially put the link of the live stream to it so they could go, they could, oh, I missed so-and-so's funeral, but here I can watch it live stream on YouTube.
CHRISY:So if somebody says to me, because the old time thinking, you know, you have to show up, you're supposed to do this, it's part of our what we do. You can just say, Oh no, I live streamed.
SPEAKER_02:I live streamed it, yep. I was there. You were there, you were virtually there.
CHRISY:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:Anyways, I know that was a bit of a segue, but I wanted to talk about that because we had brought it up and I thought, hey, the art of letting go.
CHRISY:Well, you're bringing awareness to this, and I'm sure there's a lot of people who maybe are interested in this. Uh I'm glad you brought it up.
SPEAKER_02:There's many different companies out there. This is just the one in particular I felt best fit my needs to do. So yeah. Okay. Alrighty. Good to know. Well, that was an interesting topic. Good good job, Chrissy. That was uh a Chrissy find for us for today's dysfunction in the new year. But hey, be sure to check out our website, dysfunction junkiespodcast.com. You can learn all about us. You can see our reach map and see all the different cities and countries and states that we are in. Make sure that yours is on the list. You can also learn about our junkies care initiative. This month we are featuring an international organization called Samaritan's Purse that does a lot of different initiatives to help people in need worldwide. So definitely check that all out, and then we'll be at you next week. Bye, everybody. Bye bye.
