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Chrisy & Kerry Season 2 Episode 53

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This week we are throwing it back to Episode 29, which is part 1 of our two-part Funeral Chat.  Death has a way of bringing out the complicated, messy, and sometimes absurd qualities in families – and nowhere is this more evident than at funerals. Kerry and Chrisy take listeners on a journey through the peculiar social dynamics that emerge when we gather to say goodbye to loved ones.

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Safe Space And Funeral Humor

SPEAKER_03

Welcome to the Dysfunction Junkies Podcast. We may not have seen enough, but we've seen enough. And now here are your hosts, Chrissy and Carrie.

KERRY

Welcome, Dysfunction Junkies. I'm Carrie. And I'm Chrissy. We got a good one today, Chrissy.

CHRISY

I don't know how you look at the topic today and say it's a good one. Oh, it's a good one. That one's gonna be on you, Carrie.

KERRY

Today we're gonna talk about the what brings out the best and the worst of people and families. There's two things funerals and weddings. And today we're gonna talk about funerals. Exciting. Like we said in the beginning, this is our safe space. This is where we talk about things. It's totally fine to express your feelings, good, bad, or indifferent. And also how we deal with a lot of dysfunction, trauma, anxiety, whatever you want to call it, is through humor.

CHRISY

I think that maybe these subjects come up because we think, how can I showcase how absolutely disgraceful and horrible Chrissy is? Well, there's that too. Yes. So thank you. Yeah. Cause uh, yeah, yeah. Funerals. Love them. Not not. No, no.

Childhood Funerals And Gas Station Treats

KERRY

Well, did you have a lot of funerals? Did you go to a lot of funerals as a child growing up, first of all? Let's start there.

CHRISY

Yes. A lot. More than probably most kids my age. I think the first one I went to, I was like six. Oh, okay. Uh my grandmother passed away. I was six or seven. Uh yeah. So your family toted you to a lot of funerals. Well, yeah, because how was I gonna get a candy bar? Because we had to go to the funeral. And then if you listen to a prior episode, I told you the superstition is that you can't go straight home. Oh, and you would get the candy bar at the gas station because you had to get out of the car. If I'm forced to get out of the car at the gas station. Yeah, uh a hush puppy. What do they used to call those slushy drinks? Oh, yeah. Hush, uh hush slushy or whatever the hell it was.

KERRY

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. With a dog 7-Eleven, I think it was. Yeah, yeah, slush.

CHRISY

Slush puppy. Yeah, you gotta get a slush puppy. Yeah. Part of my everyday healthy diet.

unknown

Yeah.

KERRY

The slush puppy and a snicker bar. Thank you. There you go. I remember going to several funerals as a child, but then there was like a big gap. And it wasn't until in high school that we had another little rash of funerals. And then there's been another big gap. But now, getting the age we're getting to, people are dying off. So there's funerals. Also, that I work at a church, so there's funerals. So lately I've had a lot of funerals, and that's what brought up this topic to my mind. Because I think one of the best places to people watch is at a funeral and a wedding. But today we're talking about funerals.

Calling Hours And A Loud Mom Moment

KERRY

One of the things I find interesting is well, first of all, I gotta tell you about this funeral that we just went to. One of the priests at the congregation that my mom and I would go to a lot passed away. And it was a very close friend of ours, it was especially for my mom and the community and everything. We were going to calling hours the day before, and it was held at the chapel where the priest was from. So we go into the chapel, and there he is, laid out in the open casket in the middle of the chapel. And we were there early. We were like one of the first ones there. And so the family was up at the front of the church, and then you know, the priest was in the the casket in the middle. And then the other priest was kind of standing nearby, and this priest is a particularly very close friend of my mom's. My mom like has a little crush on him, like she really, really likes this guy. Like in a in a Catholic way. I'm not saying like anything else, but she just really adores him.

CHRISY

She has a lot of admiration for Stan.

KERRY

So she does.

CHRISY

What did you say?

SPEAKER_03

Like the thornbirds. Like the thornbirds.

KERRY

No, no, no. No, no. So back. But in any case, so my mom, you know, given her state, you know, it's dementia and everything, the filter is no longer there. Right. And kind of reading the room is no longer there. So we walk into the chapel, and my mom sees her favorite priest that's still alive standing over. And she says in a very loud voice, y'all need to quit dying. It's too hard for me to get here.

CHRISY

Oh my gosh. Sounds like her. DJ Nick. I see nothing wrong with that.

KERRY

I wanted to just curl up in a little ball. Because then me and the priestess stole alive were like, shh, oh, you know, and we were laughing because it was so sweet. And we knew what she meant by it and everything. Because it did take a lot to get her there. You know, she lives an hour and a half away, so she had to come spend the night at my house so that we could get her up in time in the morning. I mean, it was a process. So we get her comment. But again, the poor family, like the six family members that were there having this beautiful, reverent moment. You know, their brother, their uncle, who was the priest, is lying there in state in the room, and they're just all in total respect. And then my mom shouts this out, and they all just kind of turn around and look at us. And I was so so embarrassed.

CHRISY

But well, that's why it's probably better to go to these, I guess, uh almost as a spectator. Yes. Because that would be fun to be sitting there. That's one take a seat in the back and just enjoy it. Right. Horrible to say that when someone has, you know, passed away. No reflection on them. It's more about the crazy people who are uh around, you know, yeah mulling around in this room trying to do whatever.

KERRY

But that's what got me to the people watching because you know, I I mean, I was there to pay my respects to, and and it was, it was a very sad loss. And I I'm so sad to see this priest pass away because he he was really uh amazing person. But because I was there with my mom, and it was really more to make sure my mom was there, I was there longer than I maybe would have. Like normally I you go in, you pay your respects, you go, you know, pray over the body, and then then you leave. But I had to stay. So therefore, I started people watching.

Open Casket People Watching

KERRY

Of course, a lot of this is people watching my mom because keeping tabs on mom.

CHRISY

She needed to be kept tabs on.

KERRY

But so then as we're sitting there, finally, after you know, my mom was making many comments. I mean, that was just the highlight reel there, but there were many other things that she said that were quick also completely inappropriate. But again, everyone was so understanding of her and her state, and and they just is so sweet to her. But I finally was like, okay, mom, you need to sit over here and pray, say your prayers, you know. So I got her calmed down. So I started watching people come in, and it's really interesting to see how people act around a dead body. You get the people who ain't going up at all, they aren't gonna go up, they will purposely take the widest, farthest route around the room to get to the family, or maybe they don't even go up to the family because they don't want to go near or see the body. Completely understand and respect that. My husband is one of those people, does not like to go to funerals. I would be shocked if he went to my funeral because he does not like he doesn't like funerals. I'm just saying, if I should pass before him, I would not be offended or upset if he didn't go to my funeral because he does not like funerals. And I get that, everyone is different. But then you have the other side of the corn where you have the people that come up and they want to touch the body. They want to like stroke their hair or touch their hands. And it's just like it's like two complete worlds. This one gentleman, he was there to obviously pay his respects, but he was there also doing some things in the church. So every time he would pass the body, because he had to pass by him a lot for what he was doing, he would just reach out and pat him. Like just pat him, pat him on the shoulder, pat him on the hand. Like it's like you're going like past somebody in a ball game, and you see somebody you know, and you pat them on the shoulder, hey buddy, how you doing? You know, and you go on by. That's what he kept doing. After like the sixth time, I'm like, that's really interesting.

CHRISY

I'm thoughts. This is a topic that you are definitely gonna be reinforced, knowing what a horrible person I probably am. I'm just honest. Your seat in hell is definitely confirmed, is what you're saying. They already called me and told me it's being it's been held for a long time. In doing that, in touching the body, which I've never until my father passed away, I gave him a little before we left the funeral home. I did give him a small little kiss on the head. Okay. Which is uh something you never forget. Yeah. But in people doing this where they're touching the body, hands and caressing the body, and not I'm not trying to imply anything inappropriate, but just you know, it's empathy. It's it's sadness.

KERRY

Different people express themselves, right? And some people are touchers and some people are not, whether and that could be whether you're a hugger in real life or you're not, it's the same thing. Right. Right. I get that.

CHRISY

But it when doing it a l a lot more than once, yes. Are you uh in my opinion, are you are you checking to see if they're really dead? Like maybe if you nudge them hard enough, they might uh did everybody sure. I mean, the did the funeral people do such a fantastic job that you just can't believe it. This guy is man, he beautiful rosy cheeks, and I swear I saw him breathing, and I just said somebody needs to come up here and not nudge him. Nudge him, he's he's gonna get up.

KERRY

I did not think you were gonna go there with that when you said that. You didn't. I know. I was like, sometimes I'm pretty good at realizing where you're gonna go with things, but oh, you caught me off guard on that one, but that's true.

CHRISY

It's a good Well, I just you know, and they probably to give that person credit, they're probably not even realizing at all that they did it.

KERRY

No, I don't think they I don't think they're that they're doing it at all.

CHRISY

Right. No, right.

KERRY

Uh uh. Because honestly, the person that was doing this, I is somebody who goes to this church a lot. And he is one of those people that, like, if you're in the pew and you've already gone to communion and they're behind you, they're the one that would come and pat you on the shoulder as they walk by, just to kind of like, you know, that a little hello pat, you know, like they're in the communion line passing you as the sort of way of saying hello without being, you know, I feel that's exactly kind of what he was doing.

CHRISY

Well, I would have an issue knowing this gentleman or whoever, woman, whoever goes to these funerals, constantly smacking Bob on the hands in the box. And then they want to come past me and smack me. Dude, I know where your hands just stop hitting me. I'm I'm I'm sitting upright already. I'm good. No laying of hands on me. You know, that is funny.

KERRY

I've got to catch my breath. Well, I just never thought of this. I well, that's what I'm saying. Bringing all this stuff to my attention. This is why we don't pre-talk about things we're gonna talk about on the show because we want the actual reaction. So here we go. So

Touching The Body And Saying Goodbye

KERRY

you know, you mentioned something about like when your dad passed away, and that you said at the funeral home you gave him the peck on the head.

CHRISY

Yes.

KERRY

Okay. So when my dad passed away, I there are five of us girls, and my four sisters were with him at the moment that he passed. I had just left after being there for like 48 hours in his final hours. I had just left maybe it couldn't have been an hour after I left when he passed. So as soon as I got the call, I went back, and it was only 10 minutes down the road where he was at. I had my moment with him in there while he was still in the nursing home when I had my moment. And I do remember grabbing his hand and holding his hand, and I gave him a chick kiss on the cheek, but then it was closed casket from there on out. So we never saw him. There was no more opportunity. There was no opportunity for people to do this drive-by tapping or anything. Or I so it had been a while since I put the Jew coin in the free and drive-by tapping. I think I just witnessed a drive-by tapping that would be on our next t-shirt. So I didn't, I guess that's why it caught me off guard because it had been a while since I had been to a funeral where there was an open casket for calling hours or anything, because everyone that I had been to pretty recently, including my dad's, was all closed. Like there was no viewing, you know. People may have come and they went and may have prayed at the casket, but they it wasn't open. So I think that's why it caught me off guard how much people were touching. I'm doing this, yeah.

CHRISY

Yeah. And you don't recall seeing this years ago, or is it just now that you've just realized it? Maybe you did see it, you just didn't think of it.

KERRY

I think that, yeah, because the other funerals were I would have been much younger, you know. And I think I do remember occasionally seeing the person, you know, where they go up once, you know, and they might, you might see the occasional person reach into the casket, but it wasn't common. But this just caught me off guard because it was like so many, and then for this one person so repetitively. But it was it was interesting.

Front Row Politics And Where To Sit

KERRY

The other thing I want to go with this is so the next day at the actual funeral, okay. You know, my mom is very close to this community where this priest passed away. I mean, you know, she worked with them for over 50 years, and uh, I grew up because my mom was working there, so I knew all of these people. So we're very close. I mean, it it's it's more like family than it is just, you know, the priest you see on Sunday kind of a relationship. When we were going, my mom was like, Well, we have to go early because I need to sit up front because she wanted to sit with the other brothers and priest from the community. She wanted to sit with them. So we get there, and of course, there goes my mom. You know, there's the three other brothers and the priest, and that they were the priest that was still alive. So my mom sat very first row, right up with them. There on the left side, and then on the right side is the family and everything. And then again, the caskets in the center. So I'm like, mommy, you sure you want you sure you want to sit in the front row? Oh no, I want to sit up there. I want to sit up there. Okay. I said, Well, I'm not gonna sit in the front row, I'm gonna sit behind you. I sat in the row behind because what was happening was as everyone's coming up to give their condolences, they're making the rounds, they're going to the family, you know, expressing. Then they get to the side we were on to all the brothers and priests that live with this priest, and there's my mom right in with them. So everyone's like going through the line and they're expressing condolences to my mom. Because, you know, half the people there probably didn't know who the heck she was, but figured she must have been important because she's right up there in the front row. You know, my my mom, how sweet she was. But uh, because it was, like I said, I'm not downplaying the relationship at all, but it also has to do with her kind of mental state at this time. But again, that social cue of maybe you shouldn't have been sitting in the front row because that wasn't your place. You weren't second or third row, maybe, but not first row. It was kind of interesting. Yeah, funerals. So, what's your take on the where you sit at at the funeral?

CHRISY

Well, there's definitely, I think, a need for family. You're dealing first up with a funeral, this is really more than a wedding, which is supposed to be a happy event, you know, maybe not my wedding for a lot of people, but we'll get to that another time. Uh but most of the time, weddings are happy events. Uh the funerals are very sad. Yeah. It's the end of something, it's somebody who you loved, right, who was important in your life. And it it's there's really not a whole lot to joke about. So when I I make fun of some things here or light, it's not of the loss. Right. Oh, that's absolutely right. It's of how we are so ridiculous about how we act sometimes at these things. And it's probably, I'll go one further and say, I can't even fully blame some of these people for acting the way they do because uh emotion will make you do things and uh they said irrational. I read something somewhere. Oh Chrissy read something, bad idea. Irrational thought in the brain is faster than rational thought.

KERRY

Oh, that's a really good thought.

CHRISY

And so is you will you'll have thought irrational thought faster than you will rational thought.

KERRY

And I think you could use the word dysfunctional as irrational.

CHRISY

Oh,

Why Funeral Rituals Feel Archaic

CHRISY

yeah. And in general, a funeral is dysfunctional. It's it's you know, it's one thing to remember somebody and have like a memorial where you want to remember the life of somebody.

KERRY

Right. You want to celebrate the life.

CHRISY

But to be honest, let's really understand what this whole process is. You are basically following some process, some tradition that was born out of a very, I would say almost it came into its own maybe during the Victorian era. And if you ever read anything about the Victorian time period, those people were a little nutty.

KERRY

I'm not sure where you're going with this.

CHRISY

As far as the idea of a funeral, the idea of displaying a deceased person. Oh, okay. For everybody to come and see one more time. Yeah. It's it's a it's a very old-fashioned thought. Yes. And we're still doing it. Yeah. And you know, the Victorians, they were the ones that were cutting off hair and skin and wearing them in lockets around their neck. They did their skin. I know they did the hair skin. Yeah, I mean, well, I don't know. Don't quote me on that one. The hair for sure. The hair for sure, yes. And, you know, the women wearing black for a very long year or whatever, and the the traditions, the social expectations. Right. So to me, it seems very almost, I don't know what to say, barbaric, not barbaric, but archaic to have this kind of ritual.

KERRY

So that brings up a really good point. At what point is it almost disrespectful to go to a funeral because you haven't been in or around or involved in that person's life?

CHRISY

I don't uh d I have uh something to comment on that. And it's kind of funny, and I don't mean any disrespect to the people who maybe consider themselves part of this group, but I I have referred to them in the past as funeral groupies. Oh, yeah. There are some people who, even if they didn't really know the person who passed away, they knew somebody who somebody knew that somebody knew that somebody knew. Or they met once. And they met once. Right. They gotta come in a little group and there goes.

KERRY

It's a social, but it's also it makes it about them and not about the person. And I think that this is where when my father died, I mean, there was a lot of trauma around my father's death. I mean, that we could hell, we could have like six episodes about that. I'll try to do the reader's digest version of it. Basically, what really got me about my father's death is how people showed up. And I was, you want to talk about being annoyed or agitated? I was annoyed and agitated about certain people that showed up in his final hours. And in one, it was like, where have you been the last however many years? Oh, yeah. So why do you feel you should be in the room right now? I don't care what your blood relation or no blood relation is. Just because you're blood related, you haven't been here. So why should you be here now? And then what really got me was they're having like a social hour.

CHRISY

Well, that's what it is. It's a social event.

KERRY

They're and they're just all sharing stories and they're talking away and they're laughing. And it's like, excuse me, I'm here with my dad having these final moments. He is dying. I'm having to have these final moments, but excuse me, I have to block out your noise because you're over there having chitty chatty happy hour and catching up over the last 20 years.

CHRISY

Well, I think that a lot of those type of people do kind of look at it as an opportunity to see so and so. Oh, yeah, I remember, I remember so and so. I used to hang out with when we used to hang out with the person who passed away. They might be there. I want to go there because I might get a chance to see them. And then they want to come console you.

KERRY

And I'm just like, get away from me. I don't, I don't, uh, and it's and I say that honestly with as much respect as I can because I I appreciate in their mind they think they're doing the right thing. But to me, it was very disrespectful. Very disrespectful. And I was going through my own grief and process, and my family was going through. Again, there was a lot of there was so much backstory. But what really got me was a week after my dad's funeral, said person contacts me and says, You didn't talk to me. What's up with you? What have I done to you that you wouldn't talk to me and you wouldn't talk to me at the funeral and you were and I'm like, excuse me, this it wasn't your dad that died? This is this is not about you. And if you knew really everything, like if you were really that involved with our family, you would have known why I was the way I was. Going back to the original question, when is it right? So the other funeral that happened in my family at the same time as this priest, it was a distant cousin. A cousin who I have not seen in probably 48 years of my 52 years of life. Knew of them, knew that they were a cousin, maybe was a little closer with one of their siblings, but again, and so there was part of me that was like, Oh, I should go to the funeral. And then I stopped myself after going to this other one and thinking about my dad's funeral and everything. Like, I think that would be more disrespectful for me to show up.

CHRISY

Well, you're thinking about it correctly. The most important thing with anybody is uh spending time with them, knowing them, yeah, sharing with them during life. Yes, yes. When my father passed away, I do remember a lot of people coming to the calling hours that I hadn't seen since I was very little. Yeah, coming how the woodwork. I was like, oh my, I didn't even know half of them were still alive. I was like, holy moly, look at who show gee, you still living. Yeah good for you, I guess. You know, my dad's not, but you are okay, well, great. Right. You know, yeah, it it funerals. Uh I

Calling Hours Culture And Mercy Meals

CHRISY

think that you have seen a bit of a shift in how they're done. I mean, because I'm sure you remember this for a very long time, it was at least a two day event. Oh, yeah. As far as what was expected of your of you. Yes. You'd have a one day of calling hours. Yep. And you'd have two calling hours. Yep. You'd have one during the day, and then you'd have evening calling hours. Right.

KERRY

And then sometimes even calling hours the hour before the actual funeral. Yes. Depending on where it was at, if it was at the church or whatever, you know. Yes. Yeah.

CHRISY

And so, and again, those calling hours are certainly not to accommodate the person who passed away. They're obviously available. Right. And they're not for the family.

KERRY

Because that's so horribly hard for the family.

CHRISY

It's very hard for the family. Yes. I would imagine. Yes. Uh-huh. But you're trying to accommodate to make sure everybody gets, it's almost like, well, if we're having a show in the morning, we're having a show in the evening. Yeah. When's the matinee? Yeah. You know, in case you missed us, we're here. We're we're back again. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's too much. And I do see a lot of people now having like maybe uh an hour prior to church service. Yes. And then the church service. Yes.

KERRY

Then you got the luncheon afterwards.

CHRISY

Oh, let's talk about the title of those things. I I wrote it down in circle because we had talked about this uh a minute ago. We did. And what do you call it? I don't call it anything. I I call it, you know, is this cuisine gonna be worth it? Because yes, I'm horrible. I mean, again, just understand, I'm probably not going to a funeral unless I absolutely have to. Right. I am and a lot of the old school people are gonna tell you I'm just horribly disrespectful. You should be there. But I don't agree with that. And I'll just leave it at that. Right. I uh been coined by, I guess, my husband's family. Uh-huh. And it sounds awful. But they and maybe other people out there, let us know in comments, please. They call it a mercy meal. Mercy meal. That's terrifying. Mercy meal. First of all, it doesn't sound like food's gonna be any good. So right now you've lost me. Mercy meal.

KERRY

This should be the meal beforehand.

CHRISY

Well, yeah. The last meal beforehand. I and I don't, I'm not again, I know that if they're that I don't think they listen to my podcast because I I don't know. But if they do, they're gonna be like, you know, why are you picking at us? I I'm not. I just never heard of it that way. Uh and maybe they're just like, well, no, there's a lot of people, but you hadn't even not heard of it.

KERRY

I had not heard of mercy meal. I've always heard it as a bereavement meal or bereavement luncheon or bereavement dinner, depending on what time of day or whatever, or you know, a family, you know, luncheon, but usually bereavement is usually the word that I've heard.

CHRISY

And so uh the mercy meal thing, okay. I to me, and some people will say it when they pa pass away, when they're prepping, uh preparing for their funeral, planning their funeral, advanced planning. Right. They some people will be like, you know, I just want everybody to have a great time. Yeah. Have a drink on me. Right. How do you how is it that you feel that way? How what I mean, death is so final. It's such, and it's an inevitable thing. We all have to deal with it.

KERRY

Yeah, we're not getting away from it. No.

CHRISY

Yep. Having a party, I mean, have a party now. Yeah. I don't want to tell you to go party after. Right. Maybe I wanted to come, maybe I didn't.

unknown

Yeah.

CHRISY

Chances are with me, maybe she don't want to party anyhow. Slizz's party, anyways. Party anyways, everybody. Party on, I guess.

KERRY

But I want it to be people that really knew, love, and respected me. I want my inner people. But I think I'll be pissed off if I'm lying there. Well, I'm gonna be cremated, so I ain't gonna be lying there. So I'll be dust in the room. But hope they don't use you for the ashes when they can't find the ashes for actual Wednesday. But I guess the way I see it is if I was that important to you in your life, then yes, please. But don't come to my funeral to make amends for yourself. So if you were a shithole to me and you were a jerk to me, or if you had all these ill feelings toward me, don't come to my funeral to make up to try to make yourself feel better. You know what I mean? And if I made an impact on your life, then I I would love it. But you know, I just the the whole people that come, I I love whenever I see a funeral, and it is truly such a celebration of life. And again, be and I work at a church, I've seen a lot of wonderful, amazing funerals where people just everybody that walked in the door had such a good story about the person that passed away. And like, and I love seeing that. And to me, that that is that truly is a celebration of life, not a funeral, you know? And I like that. But when I see these ones where it's just, oh, I s I heard they passed away, and well, when did you talk to them last? Oh, it's probably been 50 years. Why are you here? Yeah, why are you here?

CHRISY

Yeah, and that's it's a it's a whole thing, and everyone's different.

KERRY

And if you're that person that needs to go, then uh that again, that's you, you do you, but it's just I found in my own personal experience, especially being on the grieving end, I was really bothered by the people that were there and made it about them.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

KERRY

Especially the after attacks of you know, why wouldn't you talk to me at the funeral? Uh, excuse me.

CHRISY

Well, why wouldn't you even just take into consideration possibly this person is grieving? Yes, and everybody does grieve. Grieve is very grief is very personal. Yes. And you need to allow a person to have their rights to that.

KERRY

Exactly, exactly. And there was so much going on in my life at the time that my dad died. There was just so much. Funerals, I again brought that up because really in the past two two weeks or so, six funerals that I was either somewhat involved with because of the church I work in, or people that I know are relatives I know, or or or people that are close to me that I know that that are passing away or in hospice or whatever. So I just thought that would be an interesting topic for today.

CHRISY

I just yeah, make a note because if anybody missed it, because you're so sweet and honest. Yes, Carrie did say the word shithole. I did that in my password voice. The word is shithole.

KERRY

Thank you, Chrissy. When we have our next naughty or nice episode, she's like, I remember when you were naughty. You said shithole. Yeah.

CHRISY

We have a lot in this regards, this subject. Yes. And we know that most of you are listening in your car while you're getting somewhere, and not everybody's driving really far. I think this is an excellent topic. Yes. Because we still have plenty to talk about.

KERRY

I know. We might have to do a two-too. Yeah.

CHRISY

And we can

Part Two Tease And Closing Requests

CHRISY

maybe combine it with something closely related to this, but just to give you a heads up on what that would entail. The we'll talk more about mercy mills or bereavement mills. Yes. The hierarchy in seating arrangements for family members. Yes. Sparring and fighting at funerals. Ooh. Always a good uh pastime. And the cars. That car thing. Oh, yeah. The car is called. Cars are crazy, man. Yes. The whole idea of flags and cars and lights and how do you handle that?

KERRY

Oh, yeah, this is definitely a two-parter.

CHRISY

It's a two-parter. Okay. Well, stay tuned. Yes. And maybe Carrie will come up with a new word. Join us again for the Carrie password.

KERRY

All right, everybody. Well, hey, thanks for hanging with us today on this very intriguing. Stay on the road.

CHRISY

Don't drive off the road and hit anything on first because the subject was just so heavy. You're like, oh my God. We promise it gets better.

KERRY

It gets better. So, all right, everybody. But hey, before we leave, please make sure to check out our Facebook page. You can, you know, drop your comments or anything there. Wherever you are streaming us from, please hit the subscribe or follow button. That definitely helps us with our ratings. And what really helps us is any kind of reviews, especially those five-star reviews. You want to make sure you do that. And if you're really loving us and you really want to help support us, you can always become a uh subscriber as far as donating to us. So we have that click on button where you can either donate for one time or you can donate every show if you'd like to. But you do all of that from our website, dysfunctionjunkies.buzzsprout.com. Alrighty, everybody, stay tuned and we'll get back to you with more on funerals in another episode. Bye bye.